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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:13 pm

That's nothing new to me. Internet nobody fans have this thing where they believe that their idols always have the high ground in these kinds of conflicts. The death of DBZA wouldn't even put a dent in Toei's income.

Many TFS fans will probably say that they will never support Toei ever again, but you just know they will be back in a short while to have deep lore discussions about the latest DBS episode.
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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by Guru Larry » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:19 pm

drisko wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 10:46 am
They probably want it to be at the same level as those anime. And while they were made cheaply, they're gonna cost more than $10k a month. To get a full team on a 22 minute episode is something like $30k at least, and that's just for the animation, not counting the storyboards, the character and setting designs, the sound guy, etc.
$30K? Your numbers are way off, an anime studio wants a good $200,000 for a 22 minute episode (and this was when I was talking to some studios in 2001), the studio YouTube animators use for tweening (Harry Partridge and Egoraptor use them), YOTTA now wants $15K A MINUTE to animate videos. And even the animation that's shown on LORE is $500-$600 a minute and that barely animation at all.

They could go to kickstarter, but even then they'd be looking at well over a million dollars for just a basic six part series.

TL:DR 2D Animation is incredibly expensive and laborious.

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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by aboveup » Sat Jul 08, 2017 2:21 pm

Definitely. Anime is usually a gigantic loss to create and air on TV in Japan. They make up for it with aggressive merch sales and stupidly expensive bluray releases. But even then, lots of studios are struggling keeping afloat when an expected major series bombs.

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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Jul 08, 2017 3:17 pm

What a job choice. All the negatives of being self-employed but also with a "boss" that's not even your employer being able to fuck you over and the place you host your shit being able to just kick you out.
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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by JL Unlimited » Sat Jul 08, 2017 6:14 pm

mad bum wrote:
Sat Jul 08, 2017 11:55 am
What they should of done respectfully is taking that talent into actual voice acting
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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by Charlar » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:40 pm

But they already did use their "talent" to do voice acting in video games and animes, didn't stop them from being leechs with DBZA
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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by BenComicGraphics » Sat Jul 08, 2017 7:42 pm

Their names aren't favorites of the rights holders. They pretty much guaranteed they can't be used on official projects and only have throwaway voice roles.

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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by rpgworm » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:03 pm

I dunno how many wake up calls these guys need already.

I know their patreon is doing well and all, and if they drop the only thing people care about their production, that is, dragon ball, it is going to go away. But sooner or later Toei/Namco Bandai is going to get fed up with this shit and if they decide to go to court, I dunno if the "it´s just a parody" is going to stick. And I get the feeling that TFS also thinks like that.

These guys are making a living using other´s intellectual property. You can argue that Patreon are donations, but a good lawyer can make the case that team four stars is selling a product with the Dragon Ball name on it. Shit can get nasty if toei puts their weight on it.

And as much as the DBZA fans complain about Toei, for a japanse company, they´ve been very tolerant of these guys, this is the kind of shit they usually don´t to put up with.

Honestly, if I were the team four stars guys, I would finish up the Cell saga and call the lights, nobody likes the Majin Buu saga anyway, and to be honest, from what I´ve seen from their latest episodes, it is less about comedy and more about writting up their own Dragon Ball Z fanfic, and fanfics suck no matter the shape or form.

And I know these guys are scared, 10 years putting work on this is a lot, and there is the problem of what to do next. Voice act? maybe, these guys are not bad, but I don´t know if a guy making the vegeta voice for 10 years can hold it in a professional competitive field, with actors with vast amounts of different experiences and roles.

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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:09 pm

Seems like the path of the internet nobody will always end at a dead-end road.
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Re: TFS got copyright struck again

Post by Kugelfisch » Sat Jul 08, 2017 8:11 pm

Ten years and they are at Cell? What the fuck? Is having a slower pacing than the glacial animu part of the parody?
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