Movie Thread

[Lindsay's Liver]

HEAVY METAL (1981)
I have almost no interest in animation, but I make an exception for this. My media shelves are heavy with nostalgia, but I don't collect the GI Joe and He-Man cartoons that I followed as a kid. I just don't. I don't think there are any great revelations there for me as an adult.

What makes "Heavy Metal" different is that it's R-rated for one thing. When I saw it as a little kid (mid-1980s cable TV played it a lot), I felt like I was watching something dirty and for grown-ups and it was so weird back then that it was a cartoon.

Now that I watch it as an adult, I get a kick at how childish it is. It's a mishmash of stuff that a teenage boy would like. Rock music, gratuitous nudity, lots of violence and death. The animation isn't great. Sometimes it's pretty ugly even but, hey, it's got boobs. I can still put myself in the mind of a kid who thinks that this is freaky and awesome.

It wouldn't be made today, at least not with this same attitude. We might still get the cool female warrior women sequence, but not the scene where we see her walk around naked for no reason. People don't seem to even think like this anymore.

Somehow this got released on 4K. I'm happy to have it

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

Speaking of mature animation, I recently watched the Martin Gerald Rosen Depression Duology:

Watership Down (1978)
It's a movie with talking bunnies. Just how bad could it be-


Oh.

Still, easily the most light-hearted of the two movies. Also great fun if you have younger family members to traumatize with the sudden bouts of ultra-violence.

The Plague Dogs (1982)


Yeah. You know how people say that Grave of the Fireflies is the most depressing animated movie they've ever seen? At least those two kids could chill out in the afterlife. The two dogs here are just fucked from start to finish.

[ebin namefag]

I have almost no interest in animation

Yes we know you're gay.

[Lindsay's Liver]

I know about "Watership Down" and "The Plague Dogs", but have never seen them and I don't know if I can.

That weird tendency in which some people can watch Freddy Krueger kill fifty teenagers and laugh about it, but they can't stand to see an animal suffer for two seconds in a movie even if it's fake, even if it's ANIMATED? I have that.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

I can only recommend The Plague Dogs if you need that final push to an hero.
It even has a recreation of the fucking Pit of despair it keeps cutting to every now and then, just so you have a sad monkey to gaze upon.

[Liar Revealed]

I know about "Watership Down" and "The Plague Dogs", but have never seen them and I don't know if I can.

They're both great films. I especially recommend Watership Down. I used to watch it as a kid and wasn't all that traumatized.

The Plague Dogs is a lot darker. The book had a happy ending of sorts that they decided not to use for the movie. A bold artistic decision, but not an audience-pleasing one, and it probably hurt the box office numbers.

The cruelty to animals in these movies is only a microcosm of what humans do to animals on a daily basis. People need to be reminded of this.

[CuckTurdginson]

As long as its animated, animal cruelty on sets used to be a big problem. Hate to praise current year +10 and trigger someone on here, but its not a bad problem to outgrow.

I saw Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid for the first time very recently,. and I'm not going to call it a bad movie. It's entertaining, and well-made. But William Goldman's script reminded me a lot of Joss Whedon, in a very very not good way, where almost every scene is punctuated by a sitcom line. Half the movie could include a laugh track with minimal disruption.
I get what George Roy Hill and Goldman was trying to do, he wanted to make a swan song to the original kind of Western; the rip-roaring adventure with cowboys going on adventures. They're both great, great movies - "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly" is in my top 5 of all time, but movies like that and "The Wild Bunch" were not traditional westerns. But I come out of "Butch Cassidy" thinking that if I want a send-off to the traditional Western, I'd sooner watch "The Shootist" or the original "True Grit" from the same year.

It came out in an era where standards for craft were higher, but it is also a pre-cursor to the capeshit dialogue we see now.

[rabidtictac]

As long as its animated, animal cruelty on sets used to be a big problem. Hate to praise current year +10 and trigger someone on here, but its not a bad problem to outgrow.

It's still a big problem on the sets of Chinese and other Asian period films.

I saw a chicken getting plucked while it was still alive in one show.

[Old Black Man]

I know about "Watership Down" and "The Plague Dogs", but have never seen them and I don't know if I can.

That weird tendency in which some people can watch Freddy Krueger kill fifty teenagers and laugh about it, but they can't stand to see an animal suffer for two seconds in a movie even if it's fake, even if it's ANIMATED? I have that.

It’s weird but I’m in the same boat. Animals in peril, especially animated, makes me sad. Oliver & Company, goddamned that opening still hits me to this day. Thanks Huey Lewis.

[rabidtictac]

Oliver and Company is the secret childhood trauma film, along with All Dogs Go To Heaven.