Movie Thread

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

New Van Helsing Movie From Overlord Director Could Be Set In Universal’s Monsters Universe

There is no real universe for it to be set in.

[rabidtictac]

Saw Clockwork Orange and Mad Max 1. Clockwork Orange I have a lot to say about, but the short version would be I'm not really sure why the movie exists or what the point was of it. Certainly, it's a very creative film with a lot of strong visuals, but the story was extremely obvious and the characters are absurd caricatures one cannot possibly take seriously. Assuming that was the point, I again don't understand the purpose of such a movie. Was I supposed to be invested in it? Should I have been appalled that a psychotic, murdering rapist was tormented? Should I have been happy at the conclusion, which made any progress in the film's plot null and void? Should I be sympathetic towards these cardboard cutout characters?

Or, if I see the entire framing as unreliable narration from a homicidal maniac (hence the overacted, melodramatic, absurdist caricatures based on real people), then what is the point of any of it at all? There is nothing in this movie for me to care about. The movie would have been immeasurably improved with a slightly longer ending that took some of its ideas to logical conclusions, which were alluded to but not seen.

Clockwork Orange seems like the picture you'd find in urban dictionary if you looked up the world "smuckle." Seems like edgelord wankery and every faggot in the movie speaks like Kim Justice.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

It's mostly about watching that milf get murdered with a giant penis.

[Sieg Zeon]

Saw Clockwork Orange and Mad Max 1. Clockwork Orange I have a lot to say about, but the short version would be I'm not really sure why the movie exists or what the point was of it. Certainly, it's a very creative film with a lot of strong visuals, but the story was extremely obvious and the characters are absurd caricatures one cannot possibly take seriously. Assuming that was the point, I again don't understand the purpose of such a movie. Was I supposed to be invested in it? Should I have been appalled that a psychotic, murdering rapist was tormented? Should I have been happy at the conclusion, which made any progress in the film's plot null and void? Should I be sympathetic towards these cardboard cutout characters?

Or, if I see the entire framing as unreliable narration from a homicidal maniac (hence the overacted, melodramatic, absurdist caricatures based on real people), then what is the point of any of it at all? There is nothing in this movie for me to care about. The movie would have been immeasurably improved with a slightly longer ending that took some of its ideas to logical conclusions, which were alluded to but not seen.

Clockwork Orange seems like the picture you'd find in urban dictionary if you looked up the world "smuckle." Seems like edgelord wankery and every faggot in the movie speaks like Kim Justice.

It’s the sacred cow of pretentious assholes directed by one of the greatest pretentious assholes to ever walk the earth. Glad I’m not alone in feeling that way about the film.

[Moe Bitches]

But, Singing in the Rain!

[Guest]

>nigtac gets pleb filtered by babbys first "out there" movie

[Sieg Zeon]

Oh go sodomize yourself with an $80 Criterion of Brazil while watching art house child porn with Kyle Kahlgren you faggot.

[Guest]

Clockwork Orange I have a lot to say about, but the short version would be I'm not really sure why the movie exists or what the point was of it. Certainly, it's a very creative film with a lot of strong visuals, but the story was extremely obvious and the characters are absurd caricatures one cannot possibly take seriously. Assuming that was the point, I again don't understand the purpose of such a movie. Was I supposed to be invested in it? Should I have been appalled that a psychotic, murdering rapist was tormented? Should I have been happy at the conclusion, which made any progress in the film's plot null and void? Should I be sympathetic towards these cardboard cutout characters?

Or, if I see the entire framing as unreliable narration from a homicidal maniac (hence the overacted, melodramatic, absurdist caricatures based on real people), then what is the point of any of it at all? There is nothing in this movie for me to care about. The movie would have been immeasurably improved with a slightly longer ending that took some of its ideas to logical conclusions, which were alluded to but not seen.

That's a very Moviebob take you've got there.

[CuckTurdginson]

Clockwork Orange is about how psychopaths can escape accountability by being "born again" - its about the idiocy of the masses. It can be about Evangelicals, it can be about woke white guys. I know a lot of people like the book - I like the movie more. Kubrick changing the ending was wise.

[rabidtictac]

All of the movie's takes seemed so prosaic, honestly. The characters outright say shit like "he's just pretending to be reformed" and the extremely overdone acting made that obvious even before they put words to it.

Every character is unlikable and horrible, but not in a realistic way. They're so cartoonish (the dimwitted gang member is nearly catatonic) that I can't form a attachment to any of them. I don't love or hate any character-I'm indifferent to them all because they feel like plot devices and nothing else. The film plainly tries to manipulate the audience, but it's so blatant when they do so that they lost me immediately. It feels both pretentious and hammy at the same time.

The ending that Kubrick used was just the US book ending, from what I hear. He didn't change it so much as it's questionable he even knew about the alternate ending prior to filming.

I'd hesitate to call it a shit film, since it does look and sound spectacular. The classical soundtrack is one element which works perfectly as intended. But the bottom line is that I called every plot beat ages before it happened and all of the characters except possibly the main one were, IMO, awful.