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Re: Star Dreck

Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:50 am

He can have one for Master of Disguise then.
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Post by Liar Revealed » Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:22 pm

Why were Picard and Data featured so heavily in the TNG films? Because Stewart and Spiner had the two biggest egos of the cast and demanded it. That's part of the reason those movies are so shit, having to rewrite the scripts to their whims.

Patrick Stewart had the clout to do that and keep his career. Spiner got a couple of film roles and most of those movies flopped. I think Master of Disguise was a career killer for almost everyone involved.
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Post by Rushy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 2:38 pm

To be fair, Picard and Data were the most popular characters. And if Michael Dorn hadn't been doing DS9, he'd probably have gotten much more action too.
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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:36 pm

I guess they were also going for some kind of Kirk/Spock-analogue for the TNG movies, forgetting that the TOS movies didn't really forget the rest of the cast.

(Also Stewart deserved it. He kissed another dude in a movie about naked space vampires, ffs.)
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Post by Keith Chegwin » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:36 pm

Liar Revealed wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 1:22 pm
Patrick Stewart had the clout to do that and keep his career. Spiner got a couple of film roles and most of those movies flopped. I think Master of Disguise was a career killer for almost everyone involved.
Stewart's acting career was never dependent on film and television roles. I mean, the whole draw of him being on Star Trek was he was a classically trained Shakespearean actor doing bloody Star Trek. Even if he stunk up the place doing Star Trek and could never get another film role he could always go back to the theatre and do Shakespeare until he retired or died.

Spiner on the other hand, his best role was Data and he can't even play Data any more because he's aged too much.
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Rushy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm

Keith Chegwin wrote:
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Spiner on the other hand, his best role was Data and he can't even play Data any more because he's aged too much.
which is a problem Spiner himself created, because he forgot that TNG established that Data is designed to simulate the aging process.
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Liar Revealed » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:09 pm

Rushy wrote:
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which is a problem Spiner himself created, because he forgot that TNG established that Data is designed to simulate the aging process.
Everybody forgot that line, even the series finale.
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Post by Kugelfisch » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm

Rushy wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:36 pm
Spiner on the other hand, his best role was Data and he can't even play Data any more because he's aged too much.
which is a problem Spiner himself created, because he forgot that TNG established that Data is designed to simulate the aging process.
That would've been fine if he didn't look bloated as fuck in Picard.
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Re: Star Dreck

Post by Rushy » Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:27 pm

Kugelfisch wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 10:24 pm
Rushy wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:53 pm
Keith Chegwin wrote:
Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:36 pm
Spiner on the other hand, his best role was Data and he can't even play Data any more because he's aged too much.
which is a problem Spiner himself created, because he forgot that TNG established that Data is designed to simulate the aging process.
That would've been fine if he didn't look bloated as fuck in Picard.
If you look at him playing Soong, he isn't that much fatter. They just fucked up with the makeup.
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