Weebshit Thread

[Poonoo]

Getting better isn't bad per se, but mango writers just can't restrain themselves and just need the overall power level to go up by an order of magnitude or something. That's the kind of hack writing that leads to invincible super god villains who can do anything and no-self everything. Because that's apparently how to raise the stakes in shounenshit.

They really should instead focus on broadening a shounen characters skills rather than making them stupidly strong. Have them deal with different fighting styles and weird shit they haven't seen before, Tien had all these weird powers and techniques in Dragonball so shit like that should be the way to mix things up without it turning into bullshit power creep.

[rabidtictac]

One Piece did a similar thing. Most of the devil fruit powers are just different rather than better/worse. But then Haki came along and fucked everything up, because Haki is just Chi/soul power/shaman energy/nen/super saiyan.

In theory, a show could also develop a character's skill rather than pure power levels. I'd say that's what they did in Gundam 0079, except Amuro was a goddamn NewType and again, NewTypes are just another form of super saiyan.

Samurai Champloo was a pretty neat example of a show without power levels. Jin and Mugen start the show as expert swordsmen. I wouldn't say they power up so much as they fight some strong opponents and scrape out wins.

[Guest]

Champloo had some kino asspulls, especially in that last episode.

[Osterzone]

One Piece did a similar thing. Most of the devil fruit powers are just different rather than better/worse. But then Haki came along and fucked everything up, because Haki is just Chi/soul power/shaman energy/nen/super saiyan.

Logia users were too strong since all of them could just become intangible and neg any damage. Haki was made to give everyone else an off switch to the user's intangibility.

[rabidtictac]

One Piece did a similar thing. Most of the devil fruit powers are just different rather than better/worse. But then Haki came along and fucked everything up, because Haki is just Chi/soul power/shaman energy/nen/super saiyan.

Logia users were too strong since all of them could just become intangible and neg any damage. Haki was made to give everyone else an off switch to the user's intangibility.

Logia was bullshit and shouldn't have been that strong to begin with. It would have been easy, since we're talking about a comedy series, to include a lot of silly weaknesses for Logia users, like "dumping a bucket of sand on this guy will negate his stupid fire powers" or "hosing Eneru down will short-circuit him." The only one I remember from One Piss is Luffy being invincible to Eneru's lightning attacks, which isn't how rubber works btw. Buggy was beaten with a meme but he's paramecia.

Problem with Haki is it levels up the entire world. Everyone who can't use haki is suddenly trash tier and anyone who can use it is super saiyan tier unless the plot dictates otherwise. One Piss also has the problem that about half the crew are as useless in a fight as Yamcha. That wasn't an issue pre-timeskip but it sure as fuck is an issue post-timeskip. I'm not a fan either of the way the timeskip was handled. The only interesting timeskip island was the one Luffy went to, and all the designs for the characters post-timeskip look like ass.

[Guest]

All this spergy just proves anime is as bad as capeshit and ya'll are gay.

[Guest]

All this spergy just proves anime is as bad as capeshit and ya'll are gay.

Even the worst shonenshit is better than capeshit. Back to /co/mbler with you.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

It's even less of a contest when you look at mango and comics. Even the worst shonenshit might give you keks for dumb fun, whereas shit like Squirrel Girl and Captain Marvel is written by people who hat fun and all of mankind.

And I guess Haki was also used to explain how blokes like Zoro and Sanji could do super martial arts shit, but I'm worried since there have been a few cases of Bleach-style "You can't hurt me because my power level is too high!"-situations - which is extra silly since there already are[/i ] defense-centric devil fruit powers.

[rabidtictac]

And I guess Haki was also used to explain how blokes like Zoro and Sanji could do super martial arts shit

Which is extra dumb because they were doing super martial arts shit from day 1 with no explanation of how they could.

[Osterzone]

I think the explanation is in One Piece, it's possible to just train yourself to superhuman levels, haki is just the next jump. It just wasn't thought out at the beginning otherwise a dude like Rob Lucci would definitely have been using haki.