Doge Walker and Channel Awesome

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Re: [OPINION] The wasted potential of Channel Awesome: How Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis and Rob Walker ruined what could've

Post by Rushy » Sat Feb 16, 2019 12:23 am

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...a great place for kahntent creation in the level of Polaris, Red Letter Media and Rooster Teeth.


I used to be a fan of TGWTG. Every day, every week and every minute was me waiting for the next few videos by Nostalgia Critic, Lindsay Ellis, Phelous, Brows Held High, ToddInTheShadows, AngryJoe and even Linkara. I discovered them in TGWTG and while Lindsay, BHH and Phelous are like the only ones who are "evolving" as kahntent creators as of 2011, majority of TGWTG creators were still making kahntent that looked like it was from 2006 (especially Linkara, who still makes 4:3 camcorder videos in 2011). I even heard about The Walker Brothers not using Multicam setups for both Kickassia and Suburban Knights which even scratched my head. I was even frustrated by how TGWTG management did not even help improve the technical side for kahntent creators, especially in 2011 when even Youtubers can make 720p/1080p DSLR-quality kahntent with well-made sets and proper lighting.

The straw that broke the camels back for me was when I discovered YT creators like Red Letter Media and YourMovieSucks in 2012 who provided well-made kahntent even on a cheaper budget, especially RLM. My introduction to Red Letter Media was watching The Half in the Bag for Jack and Jill via BrocksDubs and the presentation, writing and humour were WAY above what anyone at TGWTG (with the exception of Lindsay and BHH) were making.

The moment TGWTG died for me was when Doge announced in To Boldly Flee that he's retiring The Nostalgia Critic to make Demo Reel. When the disastrous "pilot" for Demo Reel was released, RLM released the HITB for The Resident Evil movies and the latter made me a fan for life. Plus, RLM had made

As years go on I also discovered great kahntent "groups" like Rooster Teeth. Eventhough Rooster Teeth was older than TGWTG/CA, they were still making kahntent that TGWTG wished they'd make. Rooster Teeth made stuff like RWBY and Day 5 that I'm pretty sure Doge and Rob wanted to make but were too incompetent at it. Hell, Lazer Team was a better "crossover film" than any of the TGWTG anniversary crossover films. And speaking of films, Red Letter Media has made three movies whose budgets were WAY cheaper than then amount that TGWTG/CA received from Indiegogo to make that failed game show pilot. Hell, RLM's Best of the Worst had more set design and still less budget than Pop Quiz Hotshot.

Also, while Mike Michaud were threatening CA kahntent creators for making Patreon pages, both Rooster Teeth and RLM were embracing Patreon with open arms. Plus, they were also adding livestream events to their websites while CA still doesn't have a livestream page outside their charity events that they don't even make anymore. It's fucking embarrassing that a company that wants to be seen as "THE PLACE FOR NERDS AND GEEKS" are trying to shut down any form of innovation that could financially help such nerds and geeks.

Looking at the recent #complicit stories, it makes sense how much people like Mike Michaud, Mike Ellis and Rob Walker ruined what could've been a great place for kahntent creation. They could've been a low-budget competitor to Rooster Teeth. Hell , they had Ashens, Guru Larry and THE ENTIRE TEAMFOURSTAR CREW on the site and they still blew it. Hell, as Rooster Teeth also had a Multi-Channel Network division set up, I was even more confused by the lack of a MCN system for all their creators. It was bizarre to see Doge be with Fullscreen and Angry Joe & Chris Stuckmann being with Maker Studios. Turning into a MCN could've actually saved Channel Awesome (since they could save monetisation issues and help pay the creators without the need of multi roll ads), but Mike Michaud is too much of a dumbass hack fraud to actually consider the idea. Oh well.
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Re: Doge Walker and Channel Awesome

Post by Old Black Man » Sat Feb 16, 2019 1:05 am

Guest you lost any potential sympathy from me the moment you lauded Rooster Teeth. Fuck those people. Also how dare you mention RLM in the same breath as those two hack companies.
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Re: Doge Walker and Channel Awesome

Post by drisko » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:07 am

TOBE FAIRE, RT is very successful as a business and has never had the major set backs that CA has had.

That said, CA seems to still be doing pretty strong.

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Post by Liar Revealed » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:16 am

Guest, I don't know what your deal is. If somebody has a thread here in the IN section, then that probably means that most of us consider that person a total dumbass at the very least.
We all know that Doug Walker is an incompetent idiot and a really shitty businessman. It's all old news that we've talked to death about way before #ChangeMyTampon.

And that's all Doug is, a dumbass. He is not some supervillain like Lupus, MarzGunt, and Holly Brownbag tried to make him out to be. Compared to the sociopathic monsters we discuss here like MovieBob and Onision, Doug Walker is a mere retarded puppy dog.
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Post by da PAC Nigguh » Sat Feb 16, 2019 2:26 am

Liar Revealed wrote:
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We all know that Doge Walker is an incompetent idiot and a really shitty businessman. It's all old news that we've talked to death about way before #ChangeMyTampon.
This is why we don't give a shit. All this CTC shit about Michaud being incompetent and Doge being an autistic manchild is fucking DHI 2010. Back then though these CTC faggots were still riding TGWTG's dick calling us all a bunch of ebil trolls, so fuck them.
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Post by Le Redditeur » Sat Feb 16, 2019 4:19 am

Michaud is /ourguy/ though and guest should just shut the fuck up.

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Post by Keith Chegwin » Sat Feb 16, 2019 5:34 am

Seriously, I just want to know if this is the same guest who's posting all these reminders. Did he think we'd be more receptible to a wall of autism?
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Post by ThroneofTime » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:09 am

But the JewWario allegations. Just thinking about it and the way it all went down makes me sick. I never watched his stuff except for the anniversary specials, the Twilight vlog with Spoony and the Pokemon movie reviews with Linkara but he seemed like a sweet guy. Now I know he’s a predator and a coward.

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Re: In the end, what killed CA and the Nostalgia Critic for me wasn’t the 60 page document or bullshit responses

Post by Dingus Bajingus » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:22 am

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But the JewWario allegations. Just thinking about it and the way it all went down makes me sick. I never watched his stuff except for the anniversary specials, the Twilight vlog with Spoony and the Pokemon movie reviews with Linkara but he seemed like a sweet guy. Now I know he’s a predator and a coward.
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Re: Doge Walker and Channel Awesome

Post by Rapeculture » Sat Feb 16, 2019 6:36 am

I'm sure he's fingerbanging someone in the afterlife. Maybe Total Biscuit...
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