Climate Change and You

[Tig Ol Bitties]

Wake me up when they start aiming any of that outrage at China and India, the world's biggest polluters. Until then they're just grifters and should be treated as such.

[AnHiiro Yui]

Climate change is just like covid, just like the War on Terror. Nothing more than a manufactured crisis used as a pretext to seize power and implement technocratic dictatorship under the guise of managing crisis. Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.

[mad bum]

Wake me up when they start aiming any of that outrage at China and India, the world's biggest polluters. Until then they're just grifters and should be treated as such.

Was about to post this. Until those two play ball you're just wasting everyone's time, and they will never play ball.

[Poonoo]

Wake me up when they start aiming any of that outrage at China and India, the world's biggest polluters. Until then they're just grifters and should be treated as such.

It's not just those two, it's Asia and the Middle East in general. All of the CO2 growth over the past 15 years has been from there, the west has mostly decreased theirs since 2005 while it spikes everywhere else. Vietnam has seen a 900% increase in emissions since the early 90s, China 300% and that's off the top of my head.

Even in western countries that didn't decrease the overall emissions like Australia the amount used per person has dropped while in Asia it has increased. The west is not the issue but as you said it is a grift just like "the pay gap" and giving welfare to blacks, they know damn well their solutions will do nothing but they'll get paid anyway. That and a power grab.

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Wake me up when they start aiming any of that outrage at China and India, the world's biggest polluters. Until then they're just grifters and should be treated as such.

It's not just those two, it's Asia and the Middle East in general. All of the CO2 growth over the past 15 years has been from there, the west has mostly decreased theirs since 2005 while it spikes everywhere else. Vietnam has seen a 900% increase in emissions since the early 90s, China 300% and that's off the top of my head.

Even in western countries that didn't decrease the overall emissions like Australia the amount used per person has dropped while in Asia it has increased. The west is not the issue but as you said it is a grift just like "the pay gap" and giving welfare to blacks, they know damn well their solutions will do nothing but they'll get paid anyway. That and a power grab.

True enough.

As far as climate change, it's happening but the way those fags are spinning it's like some unholly catastrophy that's looming in the dark horizon and then you have Greta "Abby ain't got shit on me" Thumbsburger being hailed as an icon for what she's doing to completely fool your average retard. The reason Climate Change is happening is extremely complicated but I'll give the most tl;dr version right now so that everyone here understands without having to suffer like me

1.)The Earth's ecosystem is very slow changing in the eyes of the living beings. We are currently paying for CO2 emmisions that flooded the atmosphere about 60 to 150 years ago. Yes, you read that right. EVen if we magically stop all emissions, or most of them, like in the first coof lockdown and the sun starts shining through the now non-smog areas, it still wouldn't be enough. That's because the CO2 is absorbed not only by the clouds but also by the ocean, where a very large part of our oxygen comes from thanks to seaweed. However, due to the excess amount of CO2 inserted in the oceans and converted into liquid CO2, the temperature raises and when the temperature in the sea rises, the sea has to make some specific maneuvres to calm itself down and given how huge the ocean is, that takes DECADES. That's not as bad as you think, especially when the western world is actively lowering the emissions and if whitey decides to put a leash on the bugs and mud easterners(and the amerifats that build there) things will get much smoother. Sure, the temperature will go up for the next decades but it's nothing the planet and we can't power through. For now, there's no doomsday scenario.

This is also in tandem with two other Ocean-based phenomena that largely regulate the climate, the temperature of the whole planet and the oxygen levels as well as the basis for quite a few modern weather predictions. Enter, the Atantic COnveyor Belt :



Yeah, yeah wikipedia but hey, it's accurate enough. What's happening right now is that the cold currents are the more salty ones, an effect of sea pressure, temperature and how they affect the salinity levels in the water layers to offer a perfect balance so that aquatic life aren't compressed / overoxygenized / oversalinated etc and part of why water is denser at 4 celsius than 0 celsius. So due to the excess of CO2 that heats up the waters, those heat currents melt the ice in various places like Canada, Greenland etc, a very "natural" process. While it is cause of concern and there are preventitive measures, in about a hundred, granted we lower the emissions of CO2 even more, these places will be frozen up again in no time due to the "return to normalcy" of the Conveyor Belt.

However, due to the rising temperature of the sea levels, that means that we'll have less salinity on those layer levels of the sea. How will these affect every single area of the world, I don't know, the variables are too many and too compex to run a simulation of even a month of that scenario and it's prone to a fuck ton of mistakes. But, a safe assumption is that we will feel it when we go to the beach and the salt in the water doesn't stick on us as much, while the various fishies are a bit more agitated than normal.

2.)Another thing is the El Nino and La Nina phenomenon that happens about between 2 and 8 years time but sometimes, it can go up to 10 - 11 years and ties up with my second point : the way those two phenomena are set up and why they usually have an 11-year cylce that's partly affected by the solar years(also about 11 years, what a coincedence ) and they disturb the "Walker Circulation" that happens in the Equator and according to a fellow named Bjerknes, depending on how "strong" that SOlar Cycle is. Our current cycle, that started in 2019, is noted to be quite strong, stronger than the previous one and we have experienced it in various ways, on top of the El Nino-La Nina phenomena.

Here's how it goes, by Bjerknes though :

>For El Nino, when the heat goes up, the winds in the Walker circulation in the Equator weaken which leads to the weakening of the entire Walker mechanism which in turn causes the flow of hot, deep water to move to the east causing a deepening in the Thermocline of the west, which leads to decrease of the usual amounts of cold water to the surface, leading to the planet heating up due to a Positive SST anomaly. This continues for a while until the temperature and Walker Circulation go back to normal thanks to La Nina.

>On the other side, there's the La Nina phenomeno which is the diametrically opposite of that. Here's crude picture of both of these phenomena :



Now think back to 10 to 11 years ago? What happened? Was 2010 another weird year with lots of heat waves? Why, according to the Global Climate Report, yes :

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/201013

And it even notes a "dramatic shift in the El Niño–Southern Oscillation, which influences temperature and precipitation patterns around the world. A moderate-to-strong El Niño at the beginning of the year transitioned to La Niña conditions by July. At the end of November, La Niña was moderate-to-strong". Well shit, let's see how this year goes :

https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/202101

Would you look at that, A La Nina episode in January. Heck, the report even concludes that :

The year began with a La Niña episode in the tropical Pacific Ocean that started in August 2020. The El Niño-Southern Oscillation (ENSO) can affect global temperatures. La Niña tends to cool global temperatures slightly, while El Niño tends to boost global temperatures. With a slightly cool start to the year, there is only a 2.9% chance of 2021 ending as the warmest year on record. However, there is an over 99% chance of the year ranking among the 10 warmest years on record.

Would you look at that, these bitches called it. Now, let's see what the reportes say about it :



ABSOLUTE FUCKING GIGAKEK

All in all, don't worry. Unless we fuck up really spectacularily and actively engage in the destruction of the planet, like by unleashing a n entire nuclear barrage to disturb the Atlantic Conveyor Belt, do our best destroy the Walker Circulation and somehow induce two consecutive Nuclear Winters, we're fine. Or relatively fine. We just need to be cautious and keep on trying to lessen the burden on the planet so that the 4th or 5th next El Nino - La Nina won't be as severe.

"But ban" I hear you say "you're just some random fuck that supposedly studied geology, how the fuck do you know of this" and to that I answer that nobody here knows the true terror of the greek universities and the horrors one must endure to even learnt he basic bitch shit of their subject. I had to learn about the entire fucking spectrum of the aquatic life along with complex math and physics equations, to begin to understand why the fuck erosion even happens on the beaches. Speaking of which :

Some will shout about the beaches and how climate change affects them and shit and how we're sinking etc. Bullshit, the reason beaches are disappearing and why all this is a doomsday scenario etc Nothing like that. Beach Erosion, especiall in the western and eastern parts of the USA(yes, just North America) as well as Northern Europe and of course, Southern Europe(called affectionately "Eurosion") is a cause for concern but it's not due to the sea, even if the sea is responsible for annually chipping away about 0.003 mm away from our beaches. Maybe even less. The issue regarding the destruction and erosion of the beaches is far more complex and far more tied to human hands than the current temperature shifts and climate changes.

[Tony Schiavone]

Now take on the SkepticalScience site, which claims to have a bunch of peer reviewed articles refuting why you're wrong
("omg the conveyor belt is totally slowing down!!1")

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Now take on the SkepticalScience site, which claims to have a bunch of peer reviewed articles refuting why you're wrong
("omg the conveyor belt is totally slowing down!!1")

Wait a minute, wasn't Skeptical Science a parody site like the Onion? Founded by some ausie comedian? Or am I wrong?

[Tony Schiavone]

Wait a minute, wasn't Skeptical Science a parody site like the Onion? Founded by some ausie comedian? Or am I wrong?

Naw, if this was a parody site, it's gone the way of James Rolfe.

Too far off the deep end in believing it's own B.S.

[ban]

Well shit.

[Kugelfisch]

Everyone just loves to pretend to live in the end times to be relevant.
In reality, the world isn't going to end and regular pollution is a much bigger issue.