Star Whores: Diverse Agenda

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Post by Old Black Man » Thu Mar 27, 2025 9:05 am

Hmmmm? Did someone say giant egg?
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Post by TheManWithNoPlan » Sat Mar 29, 2025 11:41 am



New episode of the only decent Star Wars content available anymore

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Mar 29, 2025 12:00 pm

Fixed the link for you.
Also who gives a shit about Lucas' totally-real-I-swear plans for trilogies that never happened?
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Post by Liar Revealed » Sat Mar 29, 2025 5:20 pm

Star Wars is dead. Kathleen Kennedy killed it.
I lived and breathed Star Wars as a kid from 1980 to 1984. Bought all the toys and crap.

And I feel nothing for this brand anymore. They try to emotionally manipulate us by playing the old John Williams music over ads for their new product and I feel nothing now.
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Post by Lindsay's Liver » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:08 pm

I like Rick Worley's videos a lot. The appeal of the new one is that it's really about George Lucas's complicated relationship with his creation. The story of George Lucas and Star Wars isn't one of studio meddling or some forced compromise from outside. Lucas has been able to do whatever he wants for the past almost-fifty years. He could have had one of those jam-packed Werner Herzog careers and made a bunch of small, experimental, personal films.

Instead, he settled into a role as producer and when he was finally ready to go back to Star Wars, after understandably being burnt out on it after three movies, he did it by tinkering with the old movies. Multiple times. And he eventually sold his baby to Disney.

There's something to the psychology of that. Some kind of internal conflict. "I care a great deal about this thing, but I need to get rid of it". Maybe he was hurt by the bad reviews.

Rick Worley is a big Lucas fan who doesn't get into the questions above, but his journalistic approach of going through piles of quotes to correct old misunderstandings and get to the truth gives one plenty of room to think about what's really happening here.

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Post by VoiceOfReasonPast » Sat Mar 29, 2025 6:25 pm

He's he hack who got lucky early (thanks to the help of more talented people and tard wranglers) and fooled his fans for decades with his totally amazing plans for 9-12 episodes that were totally real.
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Post by Lindsay's Liver » Sat Mar 29, 2025 9:22 pm

I'll never rank Lucas as one of the "GOATs", as the kids say, but he made his mark.

His first film, "THX-1138", is a pretty great, bleak dystopian piece of sci-fi that has nothing to do with the mood of "Star Wars".

The second film, "American Graffiti", is a heartfelt nostalgia piece that transports you to another time and was a pioneer of the idea of a film filled with popular songs that enhance and comment on the action, rather than a traditional music score. I love it.

Then he did "Star Wars" which is such a perfect distillation of storytelling traditions that you can hardly even talk about things like "The Hero's Journey" today without referencing it. It was also more than a hit. It was a phenomenon.

After that, things changed.

Francis Ford Coppola, who knew Lucas from way back and was a mentor to him in the early days, had a really great quote about how he thinks that "Star Wars" ruined the experimental guy that he once was.

Coppola:
“George [Lucas] is kind of a genius, but I think it’s a pity he got so [absorbed in that one franchise]. I hope George isn’t offended, but the truth of the matter is that Star Wars cost us 10 new George Lucas films that would have been wonderful.”

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Post by Kugelfisch » Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:13 am

He also wanted Coppola to write Star Wars. George fucking hates writing and rightfully thinks he sucks at it.
Dude married a black woman as a rich white man. That should tell you how dumb he is.
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Post by Rushy » Sun Mar 30, 2025 12:39 am

Lindsay's Liver wrote:
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Francis Ford Coppola, who knew Lucas from way back and was a mentor to him in the early days, had a really great quote about how he thinks that "Star Wars" ruined the experimental guy that he once was.
On the one hand, he's not wrong. But on the other hand, George was always more passionate about experimenting with moviemaking technologies than he was in directing. The films he made were mostly a means to an end. He milked his own success for all its worth and used that money to pursue his passion. It's inspiring in its own way.
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Post by ebin namefag » Sun Mar 30, 2025 7:38 am

Kugelfisch wrote:
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Dude married a black woman as a rich white man. That should tell you how dumb he is.
What if you're a poor white man? Asking for a forum janitor.
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