Movie Thread

[Kugelfisch]

Anyway, I've just watched Your Vice Is a Locked Room and Only I Have the Key. It's a classic giallo from 72.
Oddly enough, I could just watch it on Amazon via a USA proxy server. Prime video usually doesn't like one using a proxy but I guess it found it plausible that I flew to burgerland in two minutes.

It was a pretty good mystery with some twists I didn't see coming but also a bit unusual for a giallo. There was the usual gloved dude slashing bitches but also an unusual amount of domestic violence. The conclusion was fairly Hitchcockian.
Worth a watch but it's far from being a Deep Red. While the story is a bit more coherent and straight forward, it largely lacks the awesome camera shots, visuals and the music is quite boring.
So far, Deep Red is my favourite giallo.

I'm thinking of watching A Bay of Blood today as well.

[Rushy]

Plus some AI that can be on thousands of servers and is thus pretty much unkillable is scarier than some nigger pushing buttons.

Yeah, but we've had four movies now of Skynet miraculously making a comeback and it's become more boring each time. At least a human villain would be sth different. It would remove some of the fear factor of the Terminators, but it's not like they have much left anyway.

As for the mother, you could just say the resistance doesn't really know where he or she came from because no concrete records were kept during the apocalypse.

So far, Deep Red is my favourite giallo.

What makes it your favourite?

Having seen it, I thought it was well plotted and had visual flair, but it didn't really stick with me(insert your sequel trilogy joke here).

[da PAC Nigguh]

At least a human villain would be sth different. It would remove some of the fear factor of the Terminators, but it's not like they have much left anyway.

Which is why this shit just needs to end and why every film since T2 has been terrible. It was never about Skynet, the Resistance, or any of that shit. It was the notion of being pursued this relentless, emotionless, unstoppable, seemingly-invincible killing machine that made Terminator great. The T-800 had that originally. Arnie barely spoke any lines and just killed whatever got in his way. T-1000 did it again in no small part due to Robert Patrick's performance as well. Ever since then they've never recaptured that element. It's a combination of the concept being worn out and being made by shitty filmmakers. The T-X was never scary.

[Kugelfisch]

As for the mother, you could just say the resistance doesn't really know where he or she came from because no concrete records were kept during the apocalypse.

Fair enough. One could make a mystery out of it.

It was the notion of being pursued this relentless, emotionless, unstoppable, seemingly-invincible killing machine that made Terminator great.

I'll fully agree on that. But that's Hollywood for you, making sequels and prequels that weren't ever needed. Can't ever leave a good thing alone.

So far, Deep Red is my favourite giallo.

What makes it your favourite?

Having seen it, I thought it was well plotted and had visual flair, but it didn't really stick with me(insert your sequel trilogy joke here).

Just a lot of factors and how they came together. It being filmed in Torino, the characters, the music, the odd and interesting camera angles that weren't ever excessive or ill-fitting.
In terms of scenes I loved every second of it. You go from an urban meat cleaver murder to investigating some children's song, to checking out a villa, to some long-forgotten archive room. It's an awesome hunt of clues that takes you many interesting places and it wasn't ever boring to me. There was always something great visually, musically or something to figure out. All characters were interesting, from Michael, who we follow, to his secretly gay, alcoholic friend.
Every murder is satisfying and shot well.
The ending kind of comes out of the blue but announces itself a bit before the end and the murderer suffers one of the greatest deaths I've ever seen in cinema.
It's pretty much all I'd want out of a giallo. The time, the location, the clichés, the music, the murders, the mystery, the twists. It just clicks with me. Might actually be my favourite movie, honestly.

[Kugelfisch]

I didn't watch A Bay of Blood, because Amazon doesn't have it for streaming but spotted another giallo I had on my list there so just watched that instead.

What have you done to Solange?
And I'm glad I did watch it! Overall just great movie I'd honestly recommend to everyone. It's not so giallo that people wouldn't get it. If you like mytery thrillers of any kind you'll get something out of it.
The premise is that we follow a teacher of an all girl Catholic school that gets a bit too intimate with his students. Then his students get murdered one by one. We know he's not guilty, even the police doesn't think he is. But at any time there are five or more possible suspects.
You're never intentionally mislead and the murderer isn't somebody the movie just pulls out of it's ass just to deliver a twist. It's all been there right from the start, it's just that you have so many suspects at any time with a possible motivation that you can never exclude enough to guess who the killer is.
Really worth a watch and so far my second favourite giallo, even though it's a bit less about murder scenes and more about the mystery. But a bit ahead of The Bird with the Crystal Plumage for me.

[Rushy]

Doctor Sleep came out and apparently they couldn't get Jack Nicholson back for a cameo. Or anyone else from the Shining. I mean, I know Duvall's crazy, but the bartender and the twins are still alive.

[Rapeculture]

Doctor Sleep came out and apparently they couldn't get Jack Nicholson back for a cameo. Or anyone else from the Shining. I mean, I know Duvall's crazy, but the bartender and the twins are still alive.

Did they actually try to contact Nicholson? I would think they wouldn't bother since he was one of the reasons King didn't like Kubrick's movie.

[Rushy]

Doctor Sleep came out and apparently they couldn't get Jack Nicholson back for a cameo. Or anyone else from the Shining. I mean, I know Duvall's crazy, but the bartender and the twins are still alive.

Did they actually try to contact Nicholson? I would think they wouldn't bother since he was one of the reasons King didn't like Kubrick's movie.

I'm not sure how much creative control King had here, given that the movie is based on Kubrick's work at all. I wouldn't be surprised if Warner Bros only allowed the film to be made if it was a direct sequel, and as such I can't imagine they didn't at least give Nicholson a phone call. There's a load of people out there who would buy a ticket just to see him on the big screen again.

[Keith Chegwin]

I'm not sure how much creative control King had here, given that the movie is based on Kubrick's work at all

No it's not. Doctor Sleep, the novel, was a sequel to The Shining. The director of the film version of Doctor Sleep went to convince King that the film is only going to work if it's also a sequel to Kubrick's The Shining. So the film is a sequel to both King's novel and Kubrick's film.

And Jack Nicholson's been retired for years. He was briefly going to come out of retirement to do a fucking remake, but decided against that and stayed in retirement. He's not doing a sequel to anything, never mind The Shining

[Rushy]

I'm not sure how much creative control King had here, given that the movie is based on Kubrick's work at all

No it's not. Doctor Sleep, the novel, was a sequel to The Shining. The director of the film version of Doctor Sleep went to convince King that the film is only going to work if it's also a sequel to Kubrick's The Shining. So the film is a sequel to both King's novel and Kubrick's film.

Yeah, I know. That's why I said I don't know how much creative control King had, given that the director turned his book into a follow-up of Kubrick's film.