What are you playing?

[wulfenlord]

XV is the only good FF in the double digits ~ so kawaii ugu :3

I picked up Shadow of le Womb Raider for free on Epic, and man is the title woke up the ass. You can't walk for 5 minutes without hearing how wonderful and diverse the corn-niggers culture is and how Laura is having a huge guilt trip about abloobloo muh pillaging has consequences. Shame that it has the best gameplay mechanics of the nu-trilogy.

[Guest]

I picked up Shadow of le Womb Raider for free on Epic

>using EGS
>ever

FF 11&12 is where it all started to go downhill and 13 is one-of-if-not-the biggist atrocities to ever befall mankind! Even more so that they made it into a trilogy!

TL;DR Tetsuya Nomura - NOT! ONCE!

Tobefaire, 13 wasn't entirely Nomura's fault. That credit goes to Motomu Toriyama, the same guy who directed FF12: Revenant Wings, X-2, and killed the Parasite Eve series with The 3rd Birthday. He only turned 13 into a trilogy because he was obsessed with Lightning being his virtual waifu, regardless of declining sales & the fact no one with a fully functional brain ever liking 13 to begin with. He was also one of the lead devs behind FF7R.
Another major factor behind the shitty writing in most recent FF games is Kazushige Nojima, the uber hack fraud, but that's a story for another time.
Square's been arguably going downhill in the quality department ever since the Spirits Within movie flopped & the business merger with Enix that """saved""" them from a second bankruptcy. Since 2001, they doubled down on the emo faggotry in their overrated games, the style of which started gaining steam since FF7, and they haven't been the same company since. Their monumental incompetence only became more apparent to normies around the time of FF13 and the original FF14 (the latter being a colossal failure which forced them to resurrect it as ARR) due to a mixture of extremely poor upper level management & hack directors/writers/designers, with the former being the reason behind why most of their games take so fucking long to complete and/or even start development on.
Just a few days ago, the CEO recently commented on how they're going to invest in NFTs, as if people couldn't hate Square more than ever now.

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

XV is the only good FF in the double digits ~ so kawaii ugu :3

FFX-2 is superior, for it focuses on waifus instead of husbandos.

I picked up Shadow of le Womb Raider for free on Epic, and man is the title woke up the ass. You can't walk for 5 minutes without hearing how wonderful and diverse the corn-niggers culture is and how Laura is having a huge guilt trip about abloobloo muh pillaging has consequences. Shame that it has the best gameplay mechanics of the nu-trilogy.

I don't care how many "genders" you supposedly had. If you leave behind some doomsday keikaku that will trigger if someone picks up a knife, you're worse than Hitler in my book.
And I keep forgetting that this was a trilogy, mainly because the first one did not follow the "X of the Tomb Raider" format.

[Guest]

Square's been arguably going downhill in the quality department ever since the Spirits Within movie flopped & the business merger with Enix that """saved""" them from a second bankruptcy.

There's no 'arguably' about it. The downfall of Square and Final Fantasy series is entirely to do with the failure of Spirits Within and the forcing out of Sakaguchi as a result. You see this all the time with companies and even nations. Once you get further and further away from the people who built it they become less and less cohesive until they fall apart.

[Le Redditeur]

FFX-2 is superior, for it focuses on waifus instead of husbandos.

Waifus? Three whores playing dress up and being annoying for a hundred hours of gameplay.

[Guest]

There's no 'arguably' about it. The downfall of Square and Final Fantasy series is entirely to do with the failure of Spirits Within and the forcing out of Sakaguchi as a result. You see this all the time with companies and even nations. Once you get further and further away from the people who built it they become less and less cohesive until they fall apart.

"Ackchually" Sakaguchi left because he was angry with how square square where going to (and I quote): " Exploit Final Fantasy" (Yes, they literally said that)

Keep in mind that he's strongly against the idea of sequels witch is why he made each installment in the series their unique worlds completely separate form each other (Well aside form recurring motiffs, themes, and Chocobos)

His departure wasn't the result spirts within bombing, because even during the film's development he announced his plans to leave

[Guest]

Shit I forgot to add that it was mainly because they where making 'direct' sequels (FFX-2, FF7's Complation series, etc.) That's what pissed him of and caused him to leave

[mad bum]

Thinking of playing Final Fantasy VII again. The whole plot point of Shinra going around injecting people with Jenova cells before they even knew what Jenova was is oddly similar to certain....current events

Tons of mods for that game to basically make it all new.

[Guest]

His departure wasn't the result spirts within bombing, because even during the film's development he announced his plans to leave

He may have toyed with leaving during the film development, because he was something like the Executive Vice President and his job was becoming more administrative and he didn't get the opportunity to really create stuff like he used to. That's why he did the movie. But the movie failing is what sealed it. Square had big plans to go into Hollywood (all these fucks want to be in Hollywood) and be big time producers and compete with Disney etc, and then the movie flopped and they lost so much money on it and put the Enix merger in jeopardy, so Sakaguchi had to fall on the sword.

I think another poster here said that Square have never really recovered from the movie.

Keep in mind that he's strongly against the idea of sequels witch is why he made each installment in the series their unique worlds completely separate form each other (Well aside form recurring motiffs, themes, and Chocobos)

Shit I forgot to add that it was mainly because they where making 'direct' sequels (FFX-2, FF7's Complation series, etc.) That's what pissed him of and caused him to leave

Thing is that it's not a stupid business move at all, especially when you've made a stupid business move by making a film when you have no experience making films and as a result lost a ton of money on it when the film failed. Direct sequels are exactly the kind of thing one might think about doing when you've lost a lot of money and need to recoup your losses.

Problem is, all the Final Fantasy direct sequels are shit

Still, it's frankly incredible that Final Fantasy has had the longevity it has when, like you said, there's no recurring characters, settings or plots. It's an entirely unique story every time with some recurring motifs. That really is what the movie's problem was. It called itself 'Final Fantasy' but there were no recognisable characters and very few if any recognisably 'Final Fantasy' elements. If Sakaguchi had been less original and done something like Advent Children i.e brought a recognisable, fan favourite, version of the property to the big screen, they might have actually done all right. It probably wouldn't have failed

[VoiceOfReasonPast]

I can see him leaving being at least partially his own decision. Seems everyone else in this company can only ever fail up.

And FF has had the staying power because of muh FF7 nostalgia, and because it's the lazy man's choice when it comes to JRPGs. Wanna play a JRPG, but you're too lazy to do research? Just pick one of dem Final Fantasies.