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Re: What are you playing?

Post by Bobito » Fri Jun 05, 2020 9:35 pm

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Just wait until start of chapter 17, a boss will keep retaking camps and calling almost infinite reinforcements if you can’t control of like 6 camps, and if you kill the boss she will appear in the next turn.
If it's the one I think it is, I'll just bring all shocktroopers and camp the bases with them. The only way to pry shocks out of a base is with grenadiers or a broken boss like Crymeria. Crymeria is the worst thing about this fucking game.
Yes, that’s what I did, in my case the bitch was wandering between west-center-South camps spamming stun grenades and crossbow shots (fucking hate it when she used his weakening skill and one shots my tanks), usually I tried to keep two guys in those camps and individually stormed the rest with the main tank and scouts.

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Post by rabidtictac » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:25 pm

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I suppose it is laudable for them to not succumb to "Cutscene Power to the Max" (thanks, tvtropes), but fighting an invincible ho who can one-shot multiple tanks in-game is not fun.
I really don't get why they keep doing this for boss fights considering the normal fights are just fine.
Legit. The standard fights with normal troop complements are great. They can still have a fun arrangement of different unit types. More so in VC4, thanks to the addition of grenadiers. Grenadiers and field guns/gatlings can create a really nice front line that prevents you from advancing. Of course, you can just abuse broken orders, but that's why the shit shouldn't be in the game in the first place! The broken orders and broken bosses should both be removed. Same for broken weapons. That shit shouldn't be in the game.

All they would have to do to make VC4 not bullshit is reduce some defense values, fix the hitbox on the tank, make Crymeria no longer invincible and add beating her as a win condition. That way, in missions where both the boss tank and crymeria appear, you could choose which one to go after. It would still be hard, just not bullshit.

VC2 isn't any better balanced, as I said before. I don't remember all the broken shit in that game, but you pretty much have to abuse broken classes yourself, like Commando and Fencer.
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Post by ban » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:38 pm

It's a case-by-case scenario in VC2. It is far more dependent on team arrangements after you get their character abilities and depending on how you built Avan as a class since he gets different abilities. I went with Fencer Avan and as a Fencer Elite and he's basically immortal and I'd rather have that as a trade-off to just GIGA damage from Mauler but with shittier movement. Plus I like to synergize him with Shocktroopers and lancer classes while having one Scout class if things look too foggy.

VC3 also has big balance problems like 2 but they nerf some abilities a bit to seem fairer but they add new system to break the game in half, again.
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Post by Moe Bitches » Fri Jun 05, 2020 11:47 pm

Ah geez I don't know, it's EA...Sold!
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Post by rabidtictac » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:32 am

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It's a case-by-case scenario in VC2. It is far more dependent on team arrangements after you get their character abilities and depending on how you built Avan as a class since he gets different abilities. I went with Fencer Avan and as a Fencer Elite and he's basically immortal and I'd rather have that as a trade-off to just GIGA damage from Mauler but with shittier movement. Plus I like to synergize him with Shocktroopers and lancer classes while having one Scout class if things look too foggy.

VC3 also has big balance problems like 2 but they nerf some abilities a bit to seem fairer but they add new system to break the game in half, again.
VC2 Fencer Avan is what I was alluding to with broken classes. Fencer Avan is unkillable and does high or decent damage to all enemy units, including armor. It's weird they start Avan as Scout. He's much better as a fencer or commando. VC2 in general isn't as bullshitty as VC1 and VC4, if I'm remembering right. The maps are a lot smaller, they get repeated more and there's more missions to grind if you want to. I only have a handfull of maps unlocked for VC4 skirmish mode and I'm in chapter 15/16. Nearly at the end of the game.

VC2 having smaller maps also buffs lancers. I had forgotten about that. Lancers have such pisspoor accuracy in VC4 that it's not uncommon to take 4 turns to knock out a single tank. VC2 lancers have a much easier time hitting because everything is closer to them. They're still not a "good" class, but the tank costs 2 CP and they can be more efficient than the tank sometimes.

I don't like how VC2 made snipers a subclass of scout. Snipers were already underpowered, and now you can't even have them unless you grind the class changing items. They call it an upgraded class, but its stats are awful compared to base scouts.
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Post by ban » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:10 am

Not sure about VC4 but a big problem to "veteran players" was that somehow, VC2 was magically more bullshity but I find it about as equal to VC1, just for different reasons and different abuses of the gameplay. And yeah, it's weird they default as a Scout, especially considering what class his brother was.

The maps are smaller and broken into sections if you want to have "big" confrontations, same with VC3 and their offshoots, Shining Blade and Shining Ark, since the canvas engine can't handle much on the PSP compared to the PS3 so indeed, lancers get buffed from VC1. For Lancers, I think the eyepatch guy who sings(Vario) in VC2 is a great lancer, if only due to his abilities and when paired up with a full potential Coleen, another Lancer, these two can assrape tanks and armoured foes quickly, especially if the map has hills or high plaes to take down knightfags while Vario at least dodges everything. Otherwise they aren't as special without the proper set-up.

I haven't bothered with snipers much to be honest since I never bothered with Alliase or whatever her name was nor with Nichol because that fucker died constantly. Oh but the other scouts that have great potentials and were excellent in the scout elite etc classes survived so I got frustrated and shelved him for a long time.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by rabidtictac » Sat Jun 06, 2020 11:25 am

I never used snipers on my first playthrough of VC2, but I want to mess around with them this time and see how awful they are. For the most part, yeah, you want to upgrade Scouts down the regular upgrade path. Scouts suck in VC2 anyway, so the best you can do is keep upgrading their stats generally. Their best use is spotting enemies hiding in grass in destroy-all missions.

Most classes have a "best" upgrade path. For lancers, it's whatever retains their armor-piercing abilities. Fuck mortar launchers. Armor Techs have 2 viable routes depending on if you want utility/mine clearing or raw stats. Mine clearing isn't that important though IIRC, since I believe lancers can walk on mines and take no damage. Shocks can go Gunner or Commando. Commando is better but gunner is fun too. Engineer is best upgraded down the normal path-musicians aren't that useful imo. Engie is kind of shit anyway, with not being able to clear mines. An Engie is good if you have a 1-CP tank on the field, otherwise I don't find them necessary.

On an unrelated note, you said the Shadow Dragon remake had waifushit in it? I actually didn't know that. I thought it was just a sequelmake of an older FE game like Shadow Dragon was. Shadow Dragon has no waifushit at all and no supports either. Damn, now I'm imagining nintendy remaking 776 or geneology of the holy war with a billion waifu supports. Fug
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Post by ban » Sat Jun 06, 2020 12:01 pm

I don't think there's any character that is good for the musician path tbh. As for Mortarers...I think only Renee(sp?) is even viable as one due to Diversion and her Maternal Instinct ability.

Not Shadow Dragon, New Mystery of the Emblem. It is the sequel to Shadow Dragon.

Just like Shadow Dragon was a remake of FE1, New Mystery is a remake of FE3. It's fucking abominable, cursed even. They got rid of all the guys responsible for making Shadow Dragon, kicked Masamune Shirow out of the art department and just went full faggot. Oh and if you thought making an Avatar was heresy in Fuckwakening, here's the thing :

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Kris

This motherfucker is far, far worse. Shit, he's even worse than the fucking faggot avatar of Fire Emblem Fates because he actively fucks the entire story and makes the remake about him instead of Marth and gang.

Even the guys that made Shadows of Valentia weren't completely safe because the bitch-in-charge Nami Komoru wanted to put a new character in, her own self-insert that is Faye. You know, the childhood friend of Alm that never gets his dick and is perma-NTR'd? Yeah, that character. No joke. Nami writes at least one self-insert character like that in every game she's involved because she loves that NTR shit. The redheaded pegasus bitch in Awakening is her other self-insert(she also has another self-instert in the same game but that's for another time). So if they do remake the Thracia or Genelogy expect Selim or Sieg or whoever to magically have one childhood friend that magically never existed before but now is there to get NTR'd.
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Re: What are you playing?

Post by rabidtictac » Sat Jun 06, 2020 1:58 pm

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Just like Shadow Dragon was a remake of FE1, New Mystery is a remake of FE3. It's fucking abominable, cursed even. They got rid of all the guys responsible for making Shadow Dragon, kicked Masamune Shirow out of the art department and just went full faggot. Oh and if you thought making an Avatar was heresy in Fuckwakening, here's the thing :

https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Kris

This motherfucker is far, far worse. Shit, he's even worse than the fucking faggot avatar of Fire Emblem Fates because he actively fucks the entire story and makes the remake about him instead of Marth and gang.
Fug. That sounds awful. I would argue that it's not possible to have a worse story than Fates though. The Fates story is the worst fire emblem story I can recall. "Let's make a story about war where every female, including blood relatives, wants to fuck the player insert. Let's also make the player insert a mary sue with no flaws and jesus powers. Let's set up the story so that there are only like 5 actually bad people and everyone else who is fighting is one of the waifus who wants MC's dick." I bet if fates was made by an american company, all the men would have cocklust for MC's floppy weenus too.

Should have been called Fire Emblem: Retreats considering nobody actually dies either.
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